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Male or Female protagonist?
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PostSubject: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:01 am

Alright, so it's time to get started on this. :P

As you may have guessed by that beginning sentence, this is only a preliminary topic for this reader-driven Outlands World spinoff thing. Why? Because I need to lay out some rules, and you need to give some input.

First, the story does in fact evolve through my writings, but all major actions and decisions will be made by you (you in general, the reader :P). I have automatic override capabilities, obviously, since I'm writing it, but I seriously doubt I'll need to overrule anything.

Second, although I'm reluctant to impose automatic rules and stuff, I do have to say that you the reader CAN'T say "go meet X". Like, no commanding the protagonist to "go find Toggle" or whatever. Unless the person in question is near the protagonist, and their location is known.

Okay, now let's get on to the part you have to determine before we start.

Since we already know we're starting in the Facebook fortress, pretty much all that's left is to vote in the poll above this post: male or female protagonist? We'll just start with a gender, and perhaps fill in the protagonist's appearance (and obviously their personality) as our story progresses.

And then when we're able to begin, the sky universe is the limit. Sideways Grin

Oh, and if any of you want a different title, the name is open to change. :P



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:43 pm

Alright, I know only a few people have read this topic. But really there are only a few people who would read it.

The general leaning of the vote seems to be moderately towards a female protagonist, so unless I get other input before tomorrow or the next day, Atourist will be starting its first long-arc quite soon with this info.



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:15 pm

I must apologize for delaying to read this. It certainly looks interesting!

Odd to be starting in Facebook, but I suppose that’s become the generic website these days, as much as Reddit and Google would have you think otherwise.

I voted to remain neutral in regards to the main character’s gender, although the idea of a female lead is intriguing. Speaking with the best of intentions and fully aware of the dangerous generalization, young women have an intriguing outlook on the world, something simultaneously ambitious and content, optimistic and skeptical. They tend to be not entirely happy with the system, but are more than willing to make it work for themselves.

... *Spectra123 awaits bullets*

I must insist, of course, that this leading lady not be anyone we are familiar with, such as Kaze or Stargazer, although I doubt that was ever on the table.

I must also ask you to kindly leave me out of proceedings, or at least any of my imprints on the Tale Universe, unless you have told me exactly what that imprint plans on doing.

I don’t know if you’re aware of this, but unlike your own portfolio of characters, there are only two separate entities I have taken as my alter ego, and there are only two because of a combination of light-based magic, supernatural talismans, and time travel.

*Spectra123 is finally shot*

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:48 pm

Thanks for looking at it, however late. :P

Okay, so Spectra, we're starting in Facebook because of THIS TOPIC. I thought you voted there. :P

Second, I'm fond of both male and female protagonists and have used both in the past, but I just can't bring myself to generalize about female characters because there isn't a generalization that makes sense. :P

OBVIOUSLY I was NOT going to use Stargazer for this, because that would be as stupid as making Maestro a main character in a - oh wait. Cryptic Grin

But no, no one you guys are familiar with would be options, as Kaze has never even visited the Facebook fortress (if we're starting there?).

Next, assuming we begin from Facebook, the Outlands-World-Spectra (whom I will refer to as either Ra-0 or SpectRaKy) is very far away. I've only ever intended two separate versions of you in the Outlands World anyway. :P





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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:11 pm

... wait, it looks like Facebook wasn't chosen, one person voted for Google, and one didn't care? How did you get Facebook for that?

But I do like the idea, if only for the generic-ness of it. Facebook would be a large and stereotypical fortress, and I'd like to see what the typical Fortress would look like.


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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:54 pm

No... If you look closely, the vote is for Facebook. It's the fourth option down.

Also, Facebook isn't necessarily typical. :P But we'll see anyway.



EDIT: One last question. Do you all want this to be in first person (protagonist as "I"), second person (protagonist as "you"), or third person (protagonist by her name or as "she")? The last option will automatically come with omniscience 'cause we have to know what our hero(ine? I don't much like that ending) is thinking. :P But I do need to know what POV to use.



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:03 pm

... I'm going to go first or third person, although I'm leaning towards first, I think third person offers more flexability.

And yeah, she's our hero. And there's nothing wrong with that.

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:06 pm

I'm more partial to third person myself, although with a player-commanded situation second person is standard. :P

And so she is our hero.

The matter is all but settled, unless I get some conflicting opinion or something on POV.



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:07 pm

No conflicting opinion here. I think third person would be best.
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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:55 pm

Alright then, I guess it's settled. Admittedly I don't know about our third participating party (who I'm assuming is AF or possibly Irae), but I'll start writing in third person anyway. :P



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:12 am

we could do second person.....

or we could go with third person too I really dont care I just really like second person for some reason Shrug

example of second person: "you stand on an altar confused you know not where you are you look around and realise you are in a dark cave....."

another example of second person: homestuck

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:28 pm

Yes, Irae, you have touched on the main reason why I'm avoiding second person: Homestuck. Homestuck has greatly abused second person to the point where I'm not even going to use second person where it's ACTUALLY appropriate, like HERE in Atourist. :P

So I mean, it makes the most sense to use second person, but I'm going to post all of our hero's actions addressing her in third person. However, if we get a second plotline of Atourist, then I'll probably use second person for that.

IN OTHER NEWS, an introduction/beginning is now posted! Check it out then submit your first command (or something). :P



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:02 pm

I am sorta against any new-fangled plotlines, especially in a different format.[/conservative]

In the meantime, I suggest our heroine should start walking along the road, avoiding the off-shoots for now, looking at the activity from afar and reflecting on what friends or acquaintances she may have inside the Fortress - or outside of it.

Hopefully that direction will give us some direction to choose our new direction. :P

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:34 pm

Okay, we won't be getting another plotline for a long time anyway. :P

I'll see what our other three (?) current participants have to say, but I suppose internal monologue/thoughts would be a good revealing tactic. I'm far too lazy to support that kind of exposition until I have a consensus, though. :P However informative to everyone, it can be kind of hard to come up with, especially for a character whose name remains unrevealed.

QUICK EDIT: I assume you mean the thoroughfare, Spectra? And if so, did you mean north or south on it?



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:24 pm

In response to your QUICK EDIT: Yes, by the time I had clicked the link to get back here and respond I had already forgotten the street's name. Sigh Curse my short attention span! This is actually interesting!

... Let's go South, as South is a good place to go in another game I'm playing right about now.

Another text-based, user-driven game, actually, on the MSPA Forums.

... and considering that it's been haitus longer than I've known about it, I'm more "reading archives" than "playing" it at this point. :P

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:53 pm

Well... It didn't have a name, but it's technically a thoroughfare. :P

Anyway, tangents aside, I now have your input as being south on the thoroughfare.

To everyone else, the other options are of course

-North on the thoroughfare to other unknown pages
-East on the slightly-smaller road to the forums
-Northwest through the back alleys to some businesses then out to other roads



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Edit: I'm not certain about it, but I feel uneasy leaving that text in hide tags, as it is, y'know, intended for people to read.

Feel free to edit it back. You know best, as administrator. *bows*

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:09 am

I agree with Spectra. South sounds good!
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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:27 pm

A'ight then, if I don't get alternative input from anyone else today (i.e. AF and Irae who seem to be the only other participants), the route being south on the thoroughfare will be settled. :P

EDIT: Okay, a hastily written installment is up now. If it's too contentless, I can redo it.

However, I'd like to note for the sake of Atourist in general that the options I give you at the end of each chapter (?) are NOT the ONLY options. As this is a reader-commanded epic, you can suggest that our hero go back and explore any detail observed (or not fully explained) in the course of the chapter, not just take actions that happen to come up at the very end.



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:39 pm

Yeah, I assumed that's how the suggestions would be working.

For my part, I suggest our hero follow Black Hat in a casual fashion, see if he tries to initiate any conversation, and if not, turn off in another direction after a few minutes.

Speaking from expirience, some men just won't approach a lady unless it's convinient, simply because the excuse of "inconviniencing her" is enough to justify their fear of embarassing themselves. :P

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:27 pm

Ahah, regarding your last statement, Spectra - I treat pretty much everyone that way. :P

And alright, your input is to follow Black Hat for now. We'll see how that turns out if that's the majority vote...



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:12 am

@Spectra: I do that, too. (With guys, though. :P)

Anyway, Spectra's suggestion would work well. Or, she could try to think of some reason to strike up a conversation with him. I like either way. *refrains from using the shrug emote*
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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:39 pm

Avoidance phenomenon: WIDESPREAD. Checkmate, Codrexians.

But alright then, as you two (i.e. Spectra and Stargazer) are our only players who actually contribute regularly, I'll try to get a brief one-draft post up within the day regarding this input. Unless I receive other ideas. Which I'm guessing isn't going to happen.



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:35 am

I think it would be cool if she followed Black Hat into the storage facility. It would, at the very least, allow for some interesting possibilities. And I kinda want to know what's kept inside the storage facilities. XD
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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:06 am

Ohhh yeah, interesting possibility there would be. Or many. :P I can see it unfolding already... I plan for most "mainstream" paths, sort of.

So yeah, your input is to continue following Black Hat.



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:58 pm

I'll second Stargazer's motion.

When I first read the latest update, I had no idea what to do, and still really don't. The primary reason I'm agreeing with Starry is my interest to see the story progress, rather than seeing it progress in this particular direction. Shrug *fails to to refrain from using shrugging emote*

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:27 am

Hm, okay then. I suppose it is a bit of an odd juncture. :P

But the story will go on, and important things will happen. I'll try for a post tomorrow, however shoddy it ends up being. Would that I could make an image for it though.



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:21 pm

An ... image? Shocked

The idea of an image for this half excites me and half terrifies me. :P

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:33 pm

Erm... I said I wouldn't be doing any image. :P Not for this NEXT post anyway. I'm just saying I want to do a picture someday, and if you viewers want to make some yourselves that would be nice too.

But this brings me to a point I might go back and edit into the first post, it's so important.

The very joy of Atourist is that it truly is a joint project. I know almost nothing more than you, the readers, before our hero is given the decision to take a certain path. When our hero woke up in the morning, I didn't know what she looked like, and I still don't. When Black Hat strode out of the Facebook office and down that easterly street, I didn't really know what he thought he was doing, and still don't.

The reason why I brought this up: Since I have little clue what our hero or Black Hat or (sort of) Facebook look like, I can't make a relevant image until some later point (post). And it would be just a sketch anyway, since I have no tools or skills to make refined computer art.


After all that, it's time to get a one-draft post up, so by the time you read this, it'll be up. Sorry if it's not well-formed, but it can be re-written.



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:07 pm

Hide behind one of the many crates and containers near wherever "Black Hat" and his coworker are talking to eavesdrop.

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I would say I am willing to do some "fan art", but I've learned to refrain from making promises I might not be able to keep. Most of the time.

I picture our hero as a brunette wearing maroon or another dark, warm color, perhaps with jeans (I can’t see her in a skirt or some kind of dress) or khaki pants? Probably Anglo Asian, with her hair let loose and fairly long, but very straight.

Although to be fair I made up most of that just now.

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:28 pm

Hm, okay, CHALLENGE input accepted. :P

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And yeah... I suspected you made up much of that just then. :P jk, but there is one minor appearance detail I seem to have worked into the story already, in the first chapter-thing, if you wish to be "canonical" or whatever.

Other than that, there IS no right or wrong, at least until details get revealed specifically or I'm able to make an official image. :P And even then there are lots of different artistic styles...



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:46 pm

Either A) everyone was busy, B) no one had any clue what to do, or C) no one noticed the previous update.

Whatever the case was, I went ahead and added a small update to the end of it myself. :P It's not much, and not what I would have preferred, but it gives more clear options.

Still, I feel I should warn you all that in the future, I'm eventually going to stop giving clear-cut basic options at the end of each chapter. You, the readers, are the instigators here; in the real world, there are rarely obvious choices to make. And importantly, NO ONE stops to wonder about what exactly they should do TOO often.



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:06 pm

In my case, both A) and B). Sigh

Anyway, I think she should continue to follow Black Hat. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Tue May 01, 2012 1:39 am

Alright then. :P

Sorry it took so long to post, all. Even now I'm unsure of how well it segues. But suggest away, I guess, unless you'd prefer a reworking of this most recent post.



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Tue May 01, 2012 5:40 pm

No need to rework it. It's segues fine. Smile

Ooh! An Acolyte! Personally, I don't think she should turn the Acolyte in. Not only would it be awkward explaining to a Monitor how she came to find one, but I feel that she may sympathize with the Acolytes, consciously or unconsciously. So...um, I guess she should just sit where she is for a minute and see if anyone else comes along and if it's safe to go? Maybe afterwards, she could look in the ucycling bins she's hiding behind.
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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Tue May 01, 2012 10:33 pm

Sorry this has escaped my notice for so long.

First of all, I may be comically oblivious to some exposition I've already heard, but I don't know what an Acolyte is. Therefore I would prefer if our hero stays behind the bins and reflects on Acolyte activity before turning one in.

Second, how large was the storage facility? Is it likely that there were more than four people - herself, the other woman, "BH", and the Acolyte? Could the Acolyte have been female under that armor?

Third, a couple of posts ago you warned that the obvious options are likely to be phased out. I would like to chirp in that a. I am completely in favor of forming our own ideas instead of reading from a list, and b. I don't think your options were all that obvious in the first place. :P

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Wed May 02, 2012 1:12 am

@Stargazer, your challenge is accepted/assimilated. :P Sounds like a fine idea.

@Spectra, there was a brief bit in (02) about the Acolytes. A wanted poster, some brief and formerly throwaway exposition.

To your second point, the storage facilities are the size of one of Facebook's "city" blocks. Although they're more low-slung than ordinary buildings, they're quite large still, so it's either possible or likely that there were others in the building. Also, the Acolyte could most certainly have been female under the armor. Even through the visor of one of their helmets, it's difficult to discern anything about a normal Acolyte.

I'm glad you support user-suggested options, and of course that I wasn't too obvious with them anyway. :P



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Thu May 10, 2012 12:43 am

As usual, I've posted another chapter that I wrote hastily. See what you think, and/or suggest a course of action to our hero if you like. :P



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Thu May 10, 2012 1:32 am

WOO HOO! Another chapter! YAY WALLY! Very Happy

All-caps enthusiasm aside, she should go west on the east-west road and see if anything's going on in that direction. Perhaps she could check out some friends' walls and see if they've posted anything of interest lately? (Provided they post statuses or whatever on 'walls' in the Facebook fortress. I just thought it sounded appropriate, given the Facebook terminology. :P)
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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Thu May 10, 2012 1:53 am

Thank you, although really it's a week late. :P

Okay, so I assume you mean go back west, past the major north-south thoroughfare she traveled on to reach this point? (Here's a rough map to show the route she took - south is up, her present location is the dotted square. :P) West actually is where the profile-rooms would be anyway, I suppose.



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Thu May 10, 2012 2:04 am

Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry about the unclarity. :P
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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Fri May 11, 2012 2:06 am

No problem at all. :P

Unless anyone else has a different idea in mind after reading the last update, I'll go ahead and start working on the next one.



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Sun May 13, 2012 8:42 pm

Another update, written in a rush as always. Revisions/Suggestions?



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Wed May 16, 2012 12:15 am

The word "BZPower" caught my interest considerably. I am now officially convinced this is wothy of our attention.

I suggest we head to a Login Guard that isn't chasing an Acolyte, ask about weddings, and see if anything interesting is happening at BZP it's aware of.

Sorry I haven't been active here recently. School, Doctor Who, procrastination, ect.

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Wed May 16, 2012 1:29 am

Sounds good to me. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Wed May 16, 2012 1:47 am

Sure, sounds good then. :P I'll work on a next chapter.

@Spectra, no problem about any inactivity you might've had. Other than writing Atourist chapters in a rush, I haven't really been active posting-wise on the site in the last week or so. :P It being spring and all.





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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Tue May 22, 2012 12:02 am

Well, it took almost a week, but I finally wrote an entire post in something like half an hour of rushed semi-revision.

Direction/Discussion? :P



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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Wed May 23, 2012 1:16 am

Could she go back to her profile-room and see if anyone had visited while she was gone?

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Wed May 23, 2012 1:36 am

Since that's possible, she can certainly do so. :P Input accepted, and we'll see what our other contributor(s? It doesn't seem that we have more) have to say.





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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:36 pm

Alright, it’s been a while, but I do have a suggestion - and that’s more exposition.

I got the feeling that the details about our protagonist’s friends were far too brief upon my rereading. Given that she is now leaving the general area of Shoya’s profile-apartment, I would like some clarification about their relationship - a “friend” who she’s only met once, and yet still visits occasionally? I could sorta see that as a parallel to how impersonal the “friend” status is on the Facebook website, but I’d still like to know why she felt the need to add him to her friends, and anything else about him we can tell.

While we’re at it, can we compare him to Tyren and Haast (should I be calling them Olivia and Nav? I can’t decide. Full names are artificial, first names imply intimacy, which I’m not sure the main character is even capable of, and yet last names sound derogatory.) and maybe get some more info about them?

She can do all of this while she’s walking, of course, either to her profile-apartment as Starry suggested, or in the general direction of Facebook’s nearest exit. I’d like to hear what the ins and outs (literally) of Facebook are like, and whether or not our hero has ever left her possibly dystopian home to visit another fortress - since the other fortresses may well be worth seeing!

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PostSubject: Re: Atourist: Direction/Discussion Topic   Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:15 pm

Aw yeah, EXPOSITI- wait no, this is gonna be HARD. :P

Okay, I'll try for some exposition then. Since she's west of her profile-apartment currently and there is an exit to the east of it (through the forum-like sections), I'll at least have her head east from her present location and we'll see where we go from wherever I end the chapter.

Frankly I'm not sure how much it'll be possible to reveal about Shoya just yet, since our protagonist doesn't know too much about him either, but I'll try to bring to light some of how she feels about her friends, including Shoya.

Off we go then... I'll see if I can get this new chapter up in a couple of days or by the end of the week.



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